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doing it? >> if you look at the 2012 election, apparent that the conservatives need to do more to convince americans that ideas will make the lives better. unfortunately in the senate what we have to do is point out bad policy with the president. that is important job. my background is research and marketing to people. to leverage their assets to communicate to all americans we can make their lives bette better, this is a dream job for me. klitcally important. i don't think the republicans will win another national election unless conservatives convince americans the principles will work. then libertarians and independents and democrats can embrace the conservative ideas if americans believe they're the real solutions. >> bret: what do you say to the constituents who say he was my guy? >> i am still that guy. what i have done like help elect good con seventive senators and stop bad things like earmarks is only because i've gone outside the senate to take the case to the american people to create pressure on the senate to do the right thing. i can do more at the hair tage founda
. president, after a status quo election, and if you talk to folks at the white house, they don't view it as a status quo election. they thought what they had was a huge victory, and they are just -- if you're flying at 35,000 feet, you see the difference between both of them here is babe e boehner is like our margins in the house, you know, we still have a sense of clout. democrats are saying we increased our clout. this offer is meant by boehner to say the first one from geithner was the white house's position was the white house budget. we could have come back with the house gop budget. we're trying to do something that's middle ground. but the white house does not believe it was a status quo election. they believe they were handed a resounding victory. >> absolutely. nbc's luke russert. thanks so much. let's get right to our panel now. msnbc contributor ari melber is with me in the studio, and democratic strategist julian epstein joins us from washington. speaker boehner today hold reporters the president is in la la land. then he presents a counteroffer based on the mythical dynam
about rock of ages, the big surprise. we have nine states that have done it. in this past election, which i think is pivotal, four states did it completely by popular vote. no court ruling on rights, just public will. >> for the first time in 40 years in four states thanks to the efforts of chad and a lot of other people, for the first time there was a populist vote, and the people spoke. they have never spoken in favor before, but there are really two ways. it's also equal protection under the law and also that the court has found it to be a fundamental right. this is an extraordinary, extraordinary time, and -- >> let's cut this in two. there's two questions here. one is doma, the defense of marriage act. this administration will not defend it in the courts. if that gets struck down, what does that say to cases around the country where people have been allowed to marry in the same gender? chad, on that. what happens it doma gets struck down by the court, 5-4 or whatever? >> the ridiculously named defense of marriage act would be gone obviously. >> what would it mean to a gay pers
would describe them. >> what's the biggest proposal you put on the table since the election in terms of raising revenue from closing loopholes and deductions? >> there's a lot of ways to get there, but you could cap deductions at a percent of income. that would be one way to get there. you could eliminate deductions for the wealthiest. >> let me ask you a couple specifics. would you limit the home mortgage deduction? >> there are a lot of options. i'm not going to debate this. >> really? not going to debate this? so he specifically did not say no on the home mortgage deduction. didn't do that. that's the biggest write off that middle class americans have. nor any specifics on loopholes. give us just one loophole, mr. boehner. can't you get one? our tax code is how many thousands of pages and you can't give us one loophole? well, on tv and on paper, republicans refuse to offer details about just how they are going to get all this revenue. timothy geithner explained by the republicans can't sell the specifics of their plan. >> if republicans would like to go beyond these reforms, they
of hirs campaign. he thinks he won it. >> president obama has been re-elected. >> to get a deal done, you're going to have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. >> the one thing the republicans have going for them is they're leaning on erskine bowles. >> i heard what you were saying. you know nothing of my work. you mean my whole fallacy is wrong. >> i'm happy to be flexible. i recognize i'm not going to get 100%. ♪ >> it certainly 'tis the season and whether you're counting the days to the fiscal cliff, the debt ceiling, christmas day, or judgment day, there's much to do and not much time to do it. as for us, we're counting down the minutes to house speaker john boehner who will be lighting the capitol christmas tree 234 just about an hour. if you're among the wealthiest of americans, then, boy, does boehner have a gift wrapped for you. in republicans' counteroffer to avert the fiscal cliff, the rich get to keep their bush era tax cuts, even as the boehner budget slashes $1.2 trillion in spending, half of it from medicare, medicaid, and other social programs. it is a lump of coal del
the election and said to the president, you want revenue here. you want revenue on the wealthy, we'll give it to you, limiting tax deductions for the wealthy. the president instead of taking that and running with tceiling a deal has been campaigning for tax hikes and to cap it off sent treasury secretary tim geithner to congress with this outrageous proposal as basically a compilation of everything that the president wanted in his budget and beyond what he even campaigned for. as a result i think most republicans wonder how serious he is about doing this. they feel things are going backward. >> paul: yeah, that, that's the way it sounds to me, too, i talked to some senior republicans this week and they're increasingly of the belief that maybe the president wants to back them into a corner, that could push them over the cliff and then be able to blame them if you have a recession or for taxes going up on everybody. >> well, i don't doubt that's what he's trying to do. it's hard to see where the upside is for the president if the economy slips into recession, talking about 2013 having no gro
here first. you know, the president won the election. he campaigned on the basis of higher rates for the taxpayer income earners. no surprise. the republicans are asking shocked that the president is taking a tough line. i think they expect him to roll over and play dead. that is not the way things work in this town. he won the election. and he told the american people we were going to raise the rates on the top income earners. now that is what he is trying to do. i think there is some give here. i don't think it has to go up to 39.6. right now it's 35. maybe it goes up a point or two. listen, republicans need time to sort through all of this. there will be a short-term agreement. there will be a down payment with some increased taxes. some increased budget cuts. then there will be a framework for next year. i think they will reach a deal next year. i don't think it's easy. but listen, this is all what politics is about. no one gets everything. you have a negotiation. that is what is going on now. negotiation. >> eric: when you say you think there are increaseded taxes or like in
to win the presidentee again, george w. bush was really a recluse. i think now that the election is over the republicans lost. he wants to have a role in one of his causes. immigration is a passion he shares with his brother jeb, former governor of florida who is thinking of his own political future and possibly a white house run and wants to help in the reset of the republican party which will include taking a serious look at actually finally engaging on immigration reform. jon: fair to say hispanics did not exactly flock to mitt romney this time around. george w. bush did pretty well with them both four years ago and eight years ago. >> reporter: very well, he got about 41% in his last election, that is a number republicans are going to have to meet in order to win the demographics of a presidential run and get a coalition that gets you the map to win the white house. 71-27, which it was this time is not going to get you the white house. you have to be upwards of 40%, possibly in future years higher than that. and george bush, with his compassionate conservatism, his texas heritage, th
not elected to raise either rates or revenues. they were elected as a check and balance against president obama's reckless deficits and his reckless debt. they were elected to stop the explosive growth of government. the republicans were elected and sent to washington to fight for limited government, balanced budgets, and of course, greater liberty for all the american people. at this moment it seems like they are only offering a democratic light version for america. maybe they need to learn a thing or two from president obama. maybe they need to show a willingness to go over the so-called fiscal cliff. now, if the president really wants to take the country there, maybe they need to let him go there. here's the bottom line. what are we hearing from the white house? we're hearing the president will not negotiate unless taxes are raised on job creators, and we're hearing that the president now wants to seize control of the debt ceiling from congress. well, that means rather than needing the approval of the house was the senate to raise the nation's spending limit, president barack obama wan
. thanks for watching. the reality of the election is start to set in on members of the republican party. republican senator jim demint of south carolina is leaving capitol hill to become president of the heritage foundation. don't cry for demint. the out-going president of the heritage foundation made $1.1 million according to 2010 tax filings. demint will do just fine. it's not just about the money. the senator realizes he could be more effective for the conservative movement if he's not attached to the dysfunctional party known as the republican party. in a statement, demint said "i'm leaving the senate now but i'm not leaving the fight. i've decided to join the heritage foundation at a time when the conservative movement needs strong leadership in the battle of ideas." he was more to the point on cnn earlier today. >> this will give me the opportunity to help take our case to the american people and to translate our policies into real ideas. >> so you think you could be more influential within the conservative movement as the leader of the heritage foundation as opposed to a united s
. barnicle. thank you, john. "morning joe" starts right now. >>> i think they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house. but, you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. we need to find common ground, and we need to find it quickly. >> good morning. it's monday, december the 3rd here in new york city. the christmas tree all lit up. with us on set, msnbc contributor mike barnicle, pulitzer prize-winnering historian jon meacham, author of "thomas jefferson." "fortune's" assistant managing editor leigh gallagher and political analyst, former chairman of the rnc, michael steele. and i'm willie geist. joe and mika have the day off today. there's so much to talk about, but we do have to begin with the ties, if we could. it's not just mike. mike's getting all the focus here this morning, and that is inexcusable. >> could i just say, in the words of speaker john boehner, we need to find common ground here, and we need to do it quick. >> there ain't going to be any between these two ties, my man. over
's always a joke when anybody talks about wielding more power out of elective office as a civilian than in elective office. it's a real help to the republicans in the senate because he has cost them the senate. he has done more damage to the senate and most especially to republicans in the senate than anyone else. he has backed these crazy, nutty tea parties who have gutted the republican nomination for senate in various states around the country, and then he went on to lose to democrats thereby preserving the democratic control of the senate, preserving harry he reed therei. he had become an absolute disaster within his own party. the big cheer today is in the republican caucus saying, finally, we're getting rid of our absolute craziest nut. >> very good. we congratulate them for that. another thing, lawrence, that happened today is governor bobby jindal wrote an op-ed in politico and he said, at present any reading the headlines over the past week indicates that republicans are fighting to protect the rich and cut benefits for senior. it may be possible to have worse political positio
spending. he went from 70% support down to below 50% and lost the house. now he gets re-elected with less strength, not against a war hero but a guy from massachusetts, and the republicans have the house and he thinks somebody made him king and he's going to have more taxes, more spending, and more regulations. it's a real problem for him. he doesn't have the mandate he thinks he does. so i think he takes us over the cliff because he doesn't -- he's got blinders on. he doesn't see where he stands in the universe. >> okay. there are a couple things to unpack here. i want to go back to this question -- i think what i'm confused about is this kind of game of smoke and mirrors that seems to be playing out on the right. and i ask you again, is closing a loophole and ending a deduction the same thing as raising taxes? >> you have to look at the whole package. i mean i would think if you're going to -- and the other key thing here is, anybody -- >> is that a no? >> you have to -- first you have to look at the whole package and find out what's in it. to sit here and shoot at negotiating strategie
go up just a little bit. we had an election, thomas, where americans had a clear choice and they chose and we need to make sure that we think a balanced approach that is fair, that doesn't throw the middle class under the bus and that works mathematically. so far what we've seen from republicans in the house does not work in terms of reducing the deficit. >> congresswoman, we are watching the president on our screen at the business roundtable. there was an issue with the poll microphone for the president's address so they've handed him a different microphone, the leaders inside this room can hear exactly what the president is saying but his audio is too low for us to be able to share it with everybody. we're still working on that. when we see and hear about the fact this two-step plan getting something done for the middle class by the end of the year, does this set up the scenario we live in a perpetual state of fiscal cliff loopness, this is the same old dog and pony show every six months to a year fighting over the same things and not big, bold leadership? >> i hope no
the election. >> exactly. these are savings, about a third of which were reducing the subsidy for insurance companies providing medicare advantage programs and the rest of them pretty much cut to providers and we didn't reduce services. we expanded some while leaving money over the long term and the cbo said the affordable care act will save $1.2 trillion. again, we need to be careful what we do with the medicare portion of the social safety net because we've actually made some significant changes that have yet to play out. >> all right. thank you very much, sir. we greatly appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. >> now, ab stoddard, erin mcpike and keith boykin. a.b. let's start with you. let's read what senator demint and senator paul had to say about the proposal of boehner and the republicans. the $800 billion tax hike will destroy american jobs. if neither party leadership puts forward a serious plan, we should end this charade. ran paul says, one party proposes $800 billion in tax increases to counter them and continue to be the low tax small government party. the other party leadership
on the right last time just before the election when you saw a lot of people who just didn't believe the number, didn't want to believe it, but i think the growth in this number, the consumer confidence we've seen, some of the good trending economic data is part of the reason why barack obama won this election. consumers, job seekers are basically feeling a little bit better. the trend is good. i think that was the margin of difference here in large part for the president. >> i want to bring in our panel here and ben, you're an expert in all things related to the economy. ayman thinks these numbers have strengthened the president's hand here. i guess continuing in the vain of what's up is down and down is up, in some ways doesn't it sort of hurt the broader argument, though, from the left regarding unemployment benefits and the payroll tax cut? these are parts of the fiscal cliff negotiations we have not paid a lot of attention to, and also the white house's argument about further stimulus spending, undermined by this notion out there based on these numbers that the economy is recovering? >> ye
like it. we have seven weeks between election day and the end of the year, and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> treasury secretary tim geithner appeared on five separate sunday morning talk shows. he says it's the gop who have been short on specifics. >> we said how and how much and who should pay. they haven't proposed what they think. >> joining me now is california congressman karen bass. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me on, tamron. >> let me start off with a question on twitter already posed to the president, and it was what are you willing to compromise to get the fiscal cliff done? what's your answer to that question? >> i think, first of all, many compromises have been done. for example, in the cuts issues there's been over a trillion dollars of cuts. i think democrats have demonstrated over and over again we're willing to compromise and willing to make more compromises, but it's the republicans now that need to come to the table and counter the proposal that the president put forward last week. >> part of the counter of
since the election and the fiscal cliff face off. he reiterated that lying in the sand is higher taxes for the wealthy. he gave republicans some room to maneuver. >> the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and the further reforms and entitlemented ientitlements i'm prepared to make, we have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. we're not getting a deal without it. understand the reason for that. it's not me being stubborn or partisan, it's a matter of math. >> and the gop plan, which was unveiled yesterday, includes $800 bill onin new taxes made through closing loopholes and deductions and not raising rates. compare that to the president's plan and that's about half of what the white house asked for. republicans propose 600 billion in entitlement saving including raising the medicare requirement to 67, nearly twice what the white house called for. the gop plan changes how social security benefits are calculated, something addressed under the president'
's going on in this town. >> after the election of jimmy carter, he went to washington, d.c. and came back home with some bacon. >> that's right. >> that's what you do. >> the fact is this president basically i don't think wants to work with congress. >> we do not have a taxation problem. we've got a wildly out of control spending problem. >> i'll be here, and i'll be available any moment. >> we believe that despite obvious resistance to what has to be the framework of a deal here, that progress is being made. >> all of this is smoke and mirrors. all of this deficit reduction stuff, there isn't any. there aren't any spending cuts. >> greta: while democrats and republicans fight it out, the nation is waiting and waiting and waiting and suffering as they wait. former new york city mayor rudy guiliani joins us. good evening, mayor. >> how will this unravel? >> if you take them at their word, it sounds like the president is anxious to go over the fiscal cliff, and he leaves very little room for republicans to negotiate with him with a 1.7 trillion dollar tax increase, 50 billion more in stimul
in the bloomberg interview, which is the first interview since the election, it seemed that perhaps he was prepped to make an overture on the insistence to raise tacks on the top 2%. did i hear wrong or read it wrong? that this demand is a temporary demand? >> reporter: yes, it does seem like there's a little wriggle room. jay carney was asked about this and didn't want to get nailed down. the answer that you get from jay carney is he doesn't want to negotiate these kinds of things in public. but it does appear that the president created a little bit of wriggle room. are they negotiating? are there some phone calls or e-mails going back and forth, something that's happening behind the scenes that we're not seeing behind the cameras? and i just heard from a gop aide who tells me that nothing has changed from yesterday. there's still no phone calls, no e-mails, no communication ongoing from behind the scenes even though the white house says that the conversations continue. it's very difficult to see how this ball will get moved down the field if they are not talking. >> okay. and can i just main ill
much better run during katrina describing similar observations many local residents and elected leaders are saying the agency isn't prepared to respond to disasters particularly in urban areas. at the least, the congressman hopes hurricane sandy is a major wake-up call. >>neil: you putting in a long day. >>guest: hour 13 and counting. >>neil: thank you. billions in aid is requested to help with the hurricane sandy and a big chunk of that will get doled out by fema but my next guest should they get rid of the middleman and get the money directly to the victims. my guest survived san difficult but his home did not. how is it now? >>guest: we are rebuilding, starting to rebuild. i have flood insurance. people this is flood insurance are worse off. if you lost your house, you have a cap and everything that you heard from the reporter, the stalling and the delay and they didn't know how to approach the situation, because there are three million people involved, or, maybe more, from jersey all the way to long island, you had maybe eight million that could be affected and in katrina it was onl
a mandate to raise taxes. i won election. i didn't run on raising taxes on anybody. i have a mandate as well. gerri: all right, thank you, and should congress and president stay in washington until the cliff is resolved? log on, vote, and i'll share the results at the end of the show. put them in a room, lock the door, throw away the key. it's a thought. with negotiations stalled, thous out of town, going over the cliff? let's did douglas holtz-eakin, the former cbo director. doug, the house is gone. they are on vacation. how did the people leave? we have the biggest fiscal crisis of i don't know how long, something to do something about it? it's one thing to have a big recession. it's another thing when the problem is of your own creation, and you turn your back on it. what do you make of this? >> well, it's a very dangerous situation. if we go over the cliff, the taxes go up $39 # -- $395 billion, spending slashed, a plunging economy, a recipe for a recession, something no american needs to hear about now. getting past the fiscal cliff is an imperative. we are having a one-sided conversati
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economy and those seeking work. i came out the day after the election to put revenues on the table, to take a step toward the president to try to resolve this. when is he going to take a step towards us? >> can you see some way that you could agree to tax rate increase and protect small businesses at the same time, maybe going with the 37%, or some middle ground? >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table, but none of it is going to be possible. if the president insists on his position, insists on my way or the highway. that is not the way to get to an agreement that i think is important for the american people and very important for our economy. thanks. >> reporter: for more on the fiscal cliff let's bring in bob sue sack, managing editor of the hill. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me on. >> reporter: he says this is a slow walk for our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff, and if the president doesn't like the republican's plan he has an obligation to send them one that can pass both houses of congress a
on the november mid term election? and if you hook at-- and then later on, reflexively supported the regime in ruwan da when there were more war crimes committed and since vowed to heal that, but, you know, you've seen her political statements recently that showed there's a political side of susan rice and willingness for talking points that we can't afford as secretary of state and john kerry, he was part of the foreign senate relations committee and he was back in the late 60's and talked about war crimes that he reportedly saw against the vietnam war and you have some track records that don't make them the best fit. >> there are numerous republicans, john mccain, lindsey graham, a barraso who sates i would support john kerry as secretary of state who in their words would cruise through a nomination. and how would an affect if those two are in place? >> if you like what's in the last four years, you're going to get more of the same. deep defense cuts. if you had john kerry as secretary of defense. what we need is a strong secretary of defense, in spite of drawdowns and budget cuts is goin
looked at him and said you can't be serious. i never seen like it we have 7 weeks before election day andepped of the year. three of those weeks are wasted with this nonsense. >> y are talking about roughly. timothy depite gite saying we'll raise taxes 1.6 trillion and washington will increase taxes on capitol gains and we would like to say we like the power to raise the debt ceiling any time we want for the executive branch which is unconstitutional. >> steve: it is not 39 or 35 percent. all nonstarters in the world of negotiation. >> gretchen: two things to discuss. why is it tim geithner doing the discussions inted of the president of the united states. let me know if you have an answer for that. and the reason they are asking for this stuff. this is the way negotiations work when you win the presidency. you are walking around with your chest puffed up. this week, nothing will happen. until you cum come up right to the cliff. >> brian: this president is making a mockery of negotiations. he offered a initial trike with under 30 days until the cliff happens . sos the unserious attemp
reason why we are seeing confidence fall. alisyn: do you think the days after a presidential election are normally filled with promise, the promise of better days ahead. there is a high from election? but this with the consumer confidence plunging how do you make sense of it so soon after the elections? >> it was a miserable election. wasn't it. the whole time we had a small conversation. the president ran a pretty negative campaign and didn't win a mandate on big stuff. he did talk about his desire to increase taxes which may go to melissa's point. but after an elect like this. there isn't that goodwill. there isn't that kind of national coming together that you might have seen for, say, bill clinton or ronald reagan and their reelection. people are pretty bummed out. alisyn: tell us what the larger issue is. does this mean people won't be spending as much on christmas gifts in how do it translate to what it means to the economy? >> it's always hard to reconcile how people feel and how they act. we know you may feel like you shouldn't spend a lot of money but when push comes to showf
. i think it is baked into the cake it is the result of election and elections have consequences. but on the wealthy i think the rates go up but with the latest proposal, why see enough to adhere to what was the debt commission in cuts, is too little too late, but, too little, more to the point. >>guest: it is too little. what really has to happen here, you are not going to get a good answer in the next two years. you have the groups going at it and they are not going to get it. we have do wait-and-see what happens in 2014 and there are 33 senate seats up, the democrats have 20, the republicans have 13, there are thine freshman democratic senators, see what happens. if it happened that way in 2010, if we take the senate, obama will then see the light. if you hold his feet to the fire they will feel the heat and see the light. i hope that is how it happens. >>neil: we will see what happens. do you see these? they will ruin your christmas all because unions are not budging and this stuff keeps happening, the "ship" is really going to hit the fan. [ male announcer ] kids grow up in
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it seem to you that the president feels as though he has some leverage here? he won the election, right? >> he did. >> maybe that accounts for what's in his proposal. >> yeah. this is clearly a different president obama than the one we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations or even after the midterm elections in 2010 when he felt a little weakened and there was the extension of those bush tax cuts for the wealthy. so i think when you're seeing here is a president who put this on the table, trying to please his base, okay? which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step. a down payment. ironically they all know what -- in the big picture needs
can get this sorted out, you can really move forward, and therefore, i think now that your elections are out of the way, i'm just speaking as an outsider, now your election is out of the way, there's going to be all this bargaining and positions, but my expectations, i hope, and the desire of the world, is sorted out, and we can move on, and then sort our own problems out. >> for those of us in the united states, we see sort of what seems to be two intractable issues. republicans saying we will not raise taxes on the top 2% of earners. the democrats say we're certainly not going to have cuts that hurt spending cuts that hurt the middle class. and as the proposals go on the table they seem intractable on it. >> they do. but you would expect them, the republicans to be more on the tax side and democrats to be more on the we're not cutting spending side. this is pretty routine type of argument. the question is, you know, are they so far apart they can't bridge the gap? i think they could bridge the gap. you know, there have been proposals put forward on a cross-party basis before that v
's ideology. the president one the elect, he says he won it on taxing the rich. he want to win the debate. whether it's the best solutioner to the economy is an entirely different story. this is a political and ideological argument and we'll see who wins. martha: there is a couple ways this could go. one is to land in the middle. you have $800 billion and $1.6 trillion. the other is for one side to say no deal. we'll let you go over the fiscal cliff and we'll see what happens. >> reporter: at the last minute i think there will be a deal. i think republicans will retreat and say okay, you can have higher tax rates but only on people making a half million dollars a year. the president will say, okay, but we'll only discuss -- we'll think about, we'll promise spending cuts in the future. it will be a way of kicking the can down the road. martha: charles krauthammer have a will the more leverage than republicans realize. the president does not want us to go into a recession. we'll talk about that coming up. bill: democrats are all about tax hike and republicans argue massive spending programs
came back home. that is what you do. that's what you do. our people in an overwhelmingly support re-election. >> eric: we voted for obama. quid pro quo. can you talk to me about that comment? >> kimberly: the problem is they are suffering. what do they do to help detroit except for michael moore fleecing and taking the cash out of it. it's a mockery of the situation. job market there, the economy. it's depressed. >> dana: the point of the election and swing state of michigan is president obama saved michigan and the auto industry in detroit because of his actions to bail him out. at least she is honest about what they are looking for. they are not honest about the problem. >> bob: pall ryan fleeced left and right. >> dana: you are hilarious. >> greg: i was hoping this was bacon. i thought they were bringing bacon home. i was depressed -- >> kimberly: you like bacon. >> greg: everybody got bacon instead of money it would be a better place. >> eric: leave it there. coming up, three stories that you will not believe the real story behind the shoeless nan the photo that made national headlines.
between election day and the end the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> it's clear he's not pleased from his ha. is the president in danger of going too far? >> no. i think that everyone is amazed that president obama is pursuing an absolutely normal approach to negotiation. people over the last two years got so accustomed to his strategy of almost preemptive concession, you know, you don't like this, i'll give you more. i'll give you more. what obama did is say look here's what i want. this will solve the problem in my view and by the way we still don't have a recovery that's going quickly enough, we still need to goose the economy some. and the republicans are flabbergasted that he's not already making concessions and all he's asking for is okay guys, you say we don't have to raise the top rate, show me how you're going to do it with all these deductions many of which by the way are popular. you want more medicare cuts show me what you want and i think this is a perfectly normal negotiation and i was thinking on the way here, chris, you and
johns, hitting back. pizza chain's favorability score dropped from 32 on election day to 4 at the end of last month. 40 is the top score. papa john's released a statement saying the results are contradictory to another study by the same company showing significant reputation gains. that statement also says the ceo made, his remarks on the affordable care act were mischaracterized in the media. that mischaracterization didn't seem to have had an effect on the brand. >>> new jersey governor chris christie isn't shy about asking the federal government for money. he wants fema to reimburse the state for 100% of its emergency costs following superstorm sandy. the total? nearly $40 billion. >>> we've heard the controversy surrounding the food stamp program. another politician is taking the challenge to see what it's like for other people who rely on it. newark mayor cory booker is pledging to live off food stamps for one week, joining other celebrities like mario batali, colorado governor john hickenlooper, philadelphia mayor michael nutter and representative robert brady. joining me now is
't, no. she's a leftist in her politics, she's a celebrity who supported him in his re-election, and she's a monster to work with. are those not diplomatic characteristics that we'd welcome in someone who goes to london as our ambassador? i'm joking, obviously. megyn: well, you list the accurate, you know, the stuff you said about her is reportedly true. i mean, she's notorious for being difficult to work with and so on. but all the presidents do this. this is what they all do. if you raise a lot of money for me and i'm running for president, you're going to be an ambassador. that's half the reason people do it. >> however, president obama back in '08 when he first became president, he said he was going to appoint more professionals with diplomatic experience to the service. since then he has appointed 59 ambassadors, 40 of which have no diplomatic experience -- megyn: but she is, she is half british. >> so what? [laughter] megyn: that is a fulfillment of his promise. >> wait a minute, she might be up for ambassador not just to england, but to france. megyn: oh. >> i suppose being britis
in 1992, on election day day itself, it was jack kemp who is talking about 1996. we were watching that campaign. last night was the second annual awards in his name. the first award dinner went to paul ryan last year, and this year, the recipient must marco rubio. from the outset, both of these guys mentioned seeing each other on the campaign trail over the course of the last year. marco rubio held over 80 rally events and they expect to see each other in the early voting states. >> i will see you at the reunion. dinner, table for two. [laughter] >> thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa and new hampshire, but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. [laughter] greg: south carolina voted third in the nominating process. both of them obviously joking about it. marco rubio has visited ohio and iowa since the election day. it is on. jenna: either you are to have a couple of diners that you could recommend if they are looking for referrals. there is so much talk about the future of the gop. we just talked about it with governor rick perry. as folks
to egypt in the worst crisis there since the revolution two years ago. egypt's first elected president, mohamed morsi, wanted to bring visedwith a televised address tonight. he didn't. last month, morsi granted fimself near-absolute power. thousands of protesters are demanding that morsi scrap a proposed new constitution that they fear will take away many of their rights. holly williams is in cairo for holonight. holly. r: weporter: well, scott, some people here thought that after days of protest and bloodshed, president morsi would make a major concession tonight, but what he did offer won't be enough theirs opponents. they wanted him to immediately sive up all of the sweeping new powers that he gave himself two weeks ago, and they wanted him to postpone a referendum on n,ypt's new constitution, which is due to take place in under 10 1ys' time. they say that constitution ooesn't protect the rights of all egyptians. but president morsi didn't do either of those things. instead, he offered to give up just one of his new powers, a vaguely worded right to take all necessary steps to prote
still need to see the full impact of sandy. also with the election over, there aren't any sort of bigger imt implications for the presidential race. because the numbers are so foggy, the federal reserve isn't likely to look at this number as a real trend maker. the central bank. it's already said it keeps stimulating the economy even after the labor market gets better. we know this isn't likely going to steer the central bank in one direction or another. you flip the coin over, though, you have this people who say this report is very important. it's going to be driving the conversation on the fiscal cliff. we only have 25 days until the tax hikes and spending cuts start to take effect. here is the thing. this number came in much better than expected, don. so the bad part about this is that it may not motivate all those politicians on capitol hill as much as it may have, if it came in much weak er. this may not light the fire, so to speak. that could be the downside to the upside surprise to the number. don? >> alison, stick around. we'll get back to you as well. >>> from wall street now
rick santorum. we have not seen him since the election. we have spoken about them, scene of you rumors about in. the new republican party. in answer, kinder party? we will find out. he will be on the job. have a good night. ♪is all the "mon" that we have for you. we found dnis kneale. "the willis report" is coming up next. gerri: tonight, the most outrageous ways that congress spends their money. wait until you hear what we have to say. welcome to "the willis report." hello, everybody. i am gerri willis. anher bailout from president obama. that is what some in detroit say they deserve for helping reelect their commander-in-chief. the city on the brink of financial collapse and will soon lay off thousands ofity workers to pay off bills. the total outstanding debt is more than a billn dollars. that is according to mdy's investor services. joann watson city councilmember, her comments are sparking controversy. she claims the president owes the city another bailout because they voted them into office. >> he went to washington dc and he came back home with some bacon. that is what you do.
supporters are increasingly rallying behind the nation's first de democratically elected president. >> where is president morsi? >> no one knows for sure. he's in an undisclosed location, so to speak. >> as the sun rises in cairo, it will rise in a couple hours. what's the expectation? what's your prediction that will happen during the day? >> well, so far it seems like both sides want to avoid any large scale outbreaks of violence. they think it's going to make both of them look bad. however, the ra rank-and-file members of both organizations are very angry. one muslim brotherhood member, a teenage muslim brother hood member died earlier last week. he was beaten to death by a mob and two se seculars have been killed by police. there's a potential for large scale violence. >> jacob, thank you. in just a few minutes, we'll talk more about the increasingly volatile situation in egypt. first, who is now accusing the president of thinking he is the king? >> obama overplayed his hand. he thinks somebody made him king. >> right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victor
and his constituents. there is not a single republican who campaigned on the theme that if elected i'll raise your taxes $800 billion. every single -- >> and make it about spending. >> and every single republican who ran for congress vowed to his constituents to hold the line on taxes and to fight to reduce spending. this just isn't honoring that. >> let's speak of grover e runs america for tax reform, doesn't believe in tax increases but the media, he's not elected, why would anyone listen to them? watch this. >> speaking of the fiscal cliff there's been all the focus on one dangerous man who stands in the way that to avert it, grover norquist. he is hereto elected nor has he ever run for office so why is washington so scared of him? >> it's also politically smart to cut the knees out from under grover norquist. this guy, who is he? >> one dangerous man, cut the knees out from under him? because he gave candidates an opportunity to sign a tax pledge. they signed it. >> two quick points. number one, a person who stands in the way of a victory by the left is a dangerous man by definit
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